Frazzled UBM

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  My neighbor is a return visit. Should I say something?

  by Zoos in

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  i stayed home sick from work the other day and noticed a car group pull up to my neighbor's house.

  she's a stay-at-home mom.

  i decided it was time to retrieve something from my truck to see if i could recognize the visiting sisters.

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  Frazzled UBM

  I think telling her about your experience would be a very good idea and perhaps also tell her what to expect in terms of love-bombing and not really giving you the 'meat' until she is very truly entwined. Talking about the potential impact of being recruited on her marriage based on any observations you have from your time may also be helpful.
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  The frustration of talking to a person with a closed mind

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, this is going to be a bit of a general rant.

  i had a long conversation with a jw elder recently about shunning and evolution.

  i became qunite frustrated with the conversation and admitted this at the time.

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  Frazzled UBM

  Rational debate with an elder or any other deeply committed Witness is a waste of time - they don't follow the rules of an open rational debate - they have all sorts of tactics to avoid facing up to the points you make - you only end up frustrated. I have been there many times. I feel your frustration.
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  Any stock market investors here?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  if so, i was just wondering if there are any books or steps (classes, etc) you took or recommend to really learn it.

  and for what you recommend, what exactly do you do?

  (long term, short, daytrade, calls, sell high buy low, buy low sell high, etc).

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  Be careful - invest for the long-term. Day trading is extremely risky and do not invest based on market gossip - there is a lot misinformation. You need a good understanding of markets and finance. You need to be able to read the company's accounts to understand its performance and its prospects. You should diversify - that is invest in investments whose performance are not closely related - that way if one goes bad the others are still okay - don't put your eggs in one basket. Learn about the business cycle and which industires are likely to perform well in this part of the business cycle - markets are strong now so blue chips including banks may be good. Learn about the business strategy and leadership. Do they have a coherent plan and do they have a track record of delivering what they promise? The other thing to look out for is sound companies who have just been subject to some bad news - they can be oversold so that they become good value. But you need to know enough to recognise whether the company is sound.
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  Boy taken from Southampton Hospital by JW parents.

  by quellycatface in

  1. social
  2. current

  this 5 yr old boy has a brain tumour.. he was taken away from this hospital by his jw parents.

  when i read the story, i just had a feeling....... they have fled to france.

  his feeding tube runs out today.. what kind of sick, selfish and delusional parent would do that to their own children???

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  Frazzled UBM

  nhah - "But i do know your post was judgemental and harsh." Parents killing their five year old because of deluded beliefs is not deserving of harsh judgement? What planet are you on?

  I heard the police requesting on the radio for anyone with information about their whereabouts and I wondered whether they were Witnesses. qcf - how do you know they are Witnesses?

  If so, I bet there are a bunch of other deluded Witneses aiding and abetting this crime.
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  Was droping bomb on Hiroshima in 1945 evil?

  by new hope and happiness in

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  2. friends

  sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.

  ( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.

  a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..

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  Frazzled UBM

  Good and evil are moral concepts - they result from humans applying values to behaviour and making moral judgements. The debate on this thread reflects that. Is there behaviour that is 'inherently evil'? This is an interesting question - while morality varies a lot between cultures there appears to be a consensus that murder not in self-defence is wrong unless it is sanctioned by the State (war or the death penatly). Is this a natural law or is it a form of societal self-preservation - i.e. our mutual security dictates that we prohibit murder. The fact that we have a form of State-sanctioned murder suggests the latter.
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  Was droping bomb on Hiroshima in 1945 evil?

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.

  ( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.

  a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..

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  Frazzled UBM

  I have been to the Hiroshima Peace Museum - it is very moving. The killing and inflicting of radiation sickness on thousands of innocent people including children was morally repugnant.

  BUT I do not agree with the concept that man is evil. Man is capable of both great cruelty and savagery and also great humanity, compassion and self-sacrifice. To say man is either basically evil or basically good is an oversimplification.
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  Do you know your neighbors? Is it just me?

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm a single hispanic guy in my mid 30s living by myself in suburban america.

  i own a home in the kind of neighborhood where you have to get hoa permission to do just about anything, including chopping down a tree.

  i'm a white collar worker and lead a pretty boring life.

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  I just bopught a house in suburban South East London (very ethnically mixed) and my neighbours introduced themselves immediately and we are on great terms. At our old place the lady next door was nice but my wife would not invite her over for afternoon tea despite my suggesting it on a number or of occasions (JW phobia of worldly people maybe). Also the neighbour across the street at the old place was very brusque when I knocked on the door with my son to say hello and avoided us the whole time - not sure what was going on there. Anyway that seemed to be an exception and in general neighbours in London seem friendly. I come from Australia and have always had good relatioships with the neighbours.
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  9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

  "a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

  another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

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  Where are all the gun enthusiasts who previously showed photos of taking children to gun ranges and claimed this was necessary for self-defence. You can't drink alcohol until 21 in the US but you can shoot a machine gun at 5 - how does that make sense?
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  Telephone Conversations Today with 2 Elders Re: Shunning - Or Not?

  by abbasgreta in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my alcoholic and aged jw mother is now extremely ill and is being cared for in every respect by my non-jw brother.

  3 sisters visited him yesterday and were adamant.

  that i (disassociated and shunned by her for nearly 3 years) was able to 'visit her any time' and that ' there was nothing to stop me seeing her' as long as i. didn't discuss spiritual things with her.

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  Frazzled UBM

  Your outrage is totally understandable - this great principled stance of shunning is actually totally flexible at the whim of the elders. The most outrageous things is that he doesn't see the hypocrisy of his stance.
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  ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  want to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?

  only in the jw mindset!!!.

  we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.

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  Frazzled UBM

  See my thread on the letter I drafted to protect my wife - you might like to adapt it deal with these a**holes. I am happy to help if you want. Fraz